Scouting
11 YEAR OLD SCOUTING HELPS:
Scouts Rank Tracking by Jeanine Loope
ACHIEVEMENT ACTIVITIES:
Bear Cub Scout Achievement 18 “Jot it down” by Heather Wood
Cub Scout Journal Achievement #8F by Heather Wood
Water and Electricity Use - Cub Scout Bear Achievement 6D, 6E and 6F by Heather Wood
ACTIVITY IDEAS:
Activities that correspond between the three den ranks by Ericka Cardon
Bear and Wolf Yearly Den Meeting Plan by Angela de Hoyos
Bear Cub Scout Elective 2c - Rain Guage
Bear Cub Scout Requirement 7d and 7e
Cub Scout Year Schedule by Melissa Dibbell
Cub Scouts are Handy Activity by Lindsay Heitz
Dinosaur Day Cub Scout Activity by Lindsay Heitz
Going Green Cub Scout Activity by Lindsay Heitz
Hummingbird Feeder Tutorial by Tammy Schick
Scripture Dinner
Wolf Cub Scout Carnival by Lindsay Heitz
ARROW OF LIGHT:
Arrow of Light Ceremony by Kristina Calkins
Arrow of Light Poster by Hillary Braithwaite
AWARDS:
Arrow of Light Gift Idea by Amy Formenti
Pinewood Derby Lanyards and Certificates by Andi Gooch
Raingutter Regatta Award by Kristin Campbell
Scout Award Certificates
BADGE HELPS:
Webelos help for Fitness Badge by Loralee Kurzius
BINDER COVERS:
Cub Scout Binder Cover
Webelos Den Binder Cover and Insert by Shelley Nash
BLUE & GOLD BANQUET IDEAS:
A rootin' tootin' good time!
Aviator Theme
Blue and Gold Centerpieces and free printable
Blue and Gold Invitation by Allison Stoker
Blue and Gold Invite by Allison Stoker
Blue and Gold Invites that look like Cub Scout Neckerchiefs
Blue and Gold Wrap Up
Cub Scout Cake Awards
My LDS Projects
The Sew*er - Fire Pit Decor Idea
What are your ideas for the Blue and Gold Banquet? (Post your ideas...)
CANDY BAR WRAPPERS:
Inactive Candy Bar Wrapper
Scout Candy Bar Wrappers by Sharlee Ritz
CLIPART:
Auntie M Designs - TONS of Boy Scout, Cub Scout and Tiger Cub Scout digi downloads {free}!!!!
Cub Scout Clipart and Files from Mormon Share
Pinewood Derby Clipart from LDSFiles
CRAFT IDEAS:
Cub Scout Clothespin Doll Ornaments by Jessica
Imagine with all your mind by John
Scout Craft Ideas
DECORATION IDEAS (for scouting events):
Cub Scout Clothespin Doll Ornaments by Jessica
FAITH IN GOD FOR BOYS:
Connecting Faith in God for boys and Cub Scouting by Shelley Nash
Faith in God Ideas for boys
How does a Boy Earn the Religious Square Knot Patch for Cub Scouting? by Sarah Bartlett
FIELD TRIP IDEAS:
Gale Center of History and Culture by Heather Wood
Trans-Jordan Landfill
FREEBIES:
Cub Scout Freebies
FLAG CEREMONIES:
5 Finger Flag Ceremony by Billie Garcia
GAMES:
Cub Scout Baseball by Lindsay Heitz
Cub Scout Brainiac by Cindy Anderson
Cub Scout Jeopardy by Lindsay Heitz
Frisbee Golf Game by Colette Bomsta
Team Trolleys by Krista Johansen
HANDOUTS:
Flag Ceremony Handout
The Coat (printable) by Rebecca P. Johnson
HERITAGE BELT LOOP HELPS:
Three generations of my family tree by Tammy Schick
JOKES:
A Letter from Camp
LEADERSHIP HELPS:
Newly called leaders - The best resource for scouting is the "Scouting" handbook. I didn't know anything about scouting when I was called - but my secretary is also a cub scout leader and she has been a great help. Last month our stake Primary leadership meeting focused on scouting. We invited all ward Primary presidencies (excluding secretaries) all cub leaders, cub masters, and 11 year old scout leaders. We had a member of our stake presidency give the stake's expectations of what should be accomplished in cubs and 11 yr. old scouts. Then a cub leader spoke about "10 Things I Wish My Primary President Knew About Cub Scouting..." We had our high councilor over Primary speak about how important the cub master is. We had a ward Primary president tell about the importance of going to Roundtable - the monthly scout meeting. Then we ended with an 11 year old scout leader telling how important it is to have a strong program in their wards for these young boys so they will continue on in scouts and become strong deacons. I just remembered - we also had my counselor with the responsibility of "Faith in God" talk about the correlation of the award with the cub scout and 11 yr. old scout program. It was a very informative meeting.....So I think the best way to learn is from people in your ward's that know what's going on and learn from them. (Idea by Jeri)
MERIT BAGE INFO FOR BOY SCOUTS:
Merit Badge Resource Center
NEWSLETTER IDEAS:
News from the cave by Tammy Schick
OTHER:
10 things for the Primary President to know about Cub Scouts by Shelley Nash
A cub scout leader's TRUE uniform by Kristin Campbell - Cute!
A letter from Gerald Ford regarding scouting, "On my honor....."
Activities that correspond between the three den ranks by Ericka Cardon
Arrow of Light Recognition Idea
Bear's - A parent's guide by Laura Paulsen
Belt Loops for Cub Scouts by Laura Paulsen
Cheer Box
Cub Corner Bannder by Colette Bomsta
Cub Scout Action Plan
Cub Scout Calendar Bookmarks by Julie Avery - Give your scouts a copy of the schedule each month
Cub Scout - Core Values by Shelley Nash
Cub Scout resources for a great program
Den Doodle by Krista Johansen
Edible Camp Fire and More - by Paula Anglin - activity idea for teaching fire safety
Faith in God Inserts for Cub Scout Book by Esther Despain
Faith in God Memory Game for boys by Shelley Nash
How does a Boy Earn the Religious Square Knot Patch for Cub Scouting? by Sarah Bartlett
LDSScouting
Make your own Marshmallow Gun
Master List of Meetings by Den by Shelley Nash
Paper Bag Albums by Barb Bennett
Parent Orientation Packet by Denise Mariner
Requirement Summaries for each rank by Shanna Duke
Scouting in Primary
Webelos Cheat Sheet - A Guide for Parents by Laura Paulsen
Welcome to Cub Scouts (booklet) by Laura Paulsen
PACK MEETING:
Fun in the Sun Pack Meeting
Have the courage - Pack Meeting Idea by Shelley Nash
Jungle Safari Pack Meeting
Pack Meeting Agenda Form by Barb Bennett
Pack Meeting Cheers
PERMISSION SLIPS:
Parental or Guardian Permission and Medical Release Forms
PINEWOOD DERBY:
Pinewood Derby Vehicles
Certificate printable from Cute and Useful
Hot Dog with Ketchup by Lindsay Heitz
Ideas from Gluesticks
Pinewood Derby Award Ideas
Pinewood Derby Award Ideas by Strengthening our Armor
Pinewood Derby Cake
Pinewood Derby Days
Pinewood Derby Fun
Pinewood Derby Ideas by Shelley Nash
Pinewood Derby Lanyards and Certificates by Andi Gooch
Pinewood Derby Recap
Pinewood Derby SuperSite
Pinewood Derby Treat Cars
Racing to the Dinner Table - This would be a fun to serve for dinner if that was part of the event
We are having a car museum and encouraging dads and older brothers to display their old cars. YM/YW are coming to help cheer and will race cars after. (Idea by Jackie Loertcher)
POEMS:
Cub Scout Leadership Poem by Kristin Campbell
Cub Scout Valentine Poem by Trina Contreras
I am just a young boy
Poem for Pack Meeting Attendance
REQUIREMENTS:
Cub Scout Belt Loop Requirements by Melissa Jackson
Shavings and Chips" - Knife whittling by Heather Wood
SCHEDULES AND PLANNERS:
Cub Scout Yearly Achievements by Mimi Petty - combined schedule for Wolves and Bears
SKITS:
A new door approach by Joanna Wilkins
TRACKING SHEETS:
Advancement Tracking Forms by Shanna Duke
Arrow Point Trail Sheet by Amy Weiland
Bear and Arrow Point Tracking Sheets by Amy Weiland
Bear and Wolf Achievement Tracker by Kristie Gertge
Bear and Wolf Tracking Sheets by Kelly Thomas
Bear Trail Record by Sharise Case
Bear Trail Tracking Chart by Kristie Udall
Cub Scout Achievement Charts by Lana White
Cub Scout Tracking Sheets by Kristin Campbell
Den Advancement Posters by Shelley Nash
Individual Progress Worksheet for Webelos for the 2003 Webelos Cub Scout Book by Jean Kluse (Excel Document)
Keep your body healthy - Tracking Chart for Wolf Requirement 3a
Webelos Athlete Tracking Sheet by Sherry Langfitt
Webelos Badge, Activity Pins and Arrow of Light Tracking Sheets by Denise Mariner
Webelos Tracking Charts by Hattie Harris
Wolf Trail Record by Donna Madsen
Wolf Trail Record by Ron Case
Wolf Trails Summary + Arrow Point Trail by Jessica
VALENTINE IDEAS:
Cub Scout Valentine Poem by Trina Contreras
WEBSITES:
Baloo's Bugle
Boy Scouts of America
EtrailtoEagle.com - Online Troop Advancement Tracking
Primary's Faith in God for Boys and Cub Scout equivalents
Scout Mom
Scouting Bear Cave
TroopMaster Software
Ultimate Camp Resource - lots of great ideas
WELCOMING NEW SCOUTS:
"Extra" Special Cub Scout Welcome by Marlaina Bair
YAHOO GROUPS:
Cub Scout Exchange
Cub Scouts Planning
Scouts - LDS
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Jan 09 2010 21:57:45 | Anonymous
Does anyone have any great ideas on getting scouts to complete their Faith in God also?
It's so easy for the girls, but a lot of extra work for boys! Most of our boys are graduating from Primary without earning their Faith in God award! I'm a new Primary Pres. and would love suggestions!
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Jan 11 2010 08:18:41 | Anonymous
Our Stake Presidency has asked the Stake Primary to do a Mini Camp Philmont. I would love to have the information on "10 Things You Wish Your Primary President Knew About Scouts." Is there any way I an get this? Thanks
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Jan 22 2010 21:09:36 | Anonymous
We were having the same problem with our boys not earning their Faith in God Award. On the first week of every month we have a Faith in God activity for the boys. This replaces their scouts for the week. We have someone who is called as the "Faith in God for Boys teacher". This is all part of our cub scouts. It has been very successful.
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Jan 26 2010 13:41:09 | Anonymous
Earning the Faith in God award has become a cinch in our ward since someone divided the program up and assigned portions out to each den. So many of them correlate with the Scouting program that they can easily include it in one of their monthly den meetings. And by the time they get to Webelos they are that much closer to earning their rank as well by completing their Religious knot requirements.
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Feb 09 2010 17:41:21 | Anonymous
For Jeri,
How can I get a copy of the talk you referred to: "10 Things You Wish Your Primary President Knew About Scouts."
Thanks bunches,
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Feb 14 2010 14:17:55 | Anonymous
Got a pack mtg coming up and my mom is in-charge of the wolfs and we need help coming up with jokes or riddles the theme is rain gutter regatta where can we get a list of them.
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Feb 14 2010 16:45:12 | Anonymous
I would love to have a copy of the "10 things you wish your primary president knew about scouts."
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Feb 15 2010 10:20:15 | Anonymous
Me too! If you are able to get a copy of "The ten things you wish your primary president knew about Scouts." I would surely appreciate it!!! (Having just been released as a Primary President and now a bear cub leader.) I'm SOOOO new to scouts that every little bit of information I can get will be so appreciated!Funny...I've served in EVERY other position possible to women in the church...EXCEPT scouts...and now here I am. Feeling kinda overwhelmed!
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Feb 15 2010 19:52:37 | Anonymous
I also would like a copy of the 10 things you wish your primary leader knew about scouts. Our pres is new and so is the den mom and pack leader (and me too so I might not even have the right titles) and we could use all the help we can get with the program.
As far as the Faith in God book goes, one ward I was in, I was also in the Primary presidency and we had a night once a month where we got all of the 8+ kids together at one of the presidency's homes for some fun and to work on/check off two of those goals and of course we had treats. With the Primary leadership doing two goals once a month most everyone got things done and then even the less active families could let their children come and get things accomplished. I thought this was something the primary pres was supposed to do- but perhaps it was not in the manual.
Thanks for all your ideas.
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Feb 20 2010 11:18:26 | Anonymous
I would like to jump on the bandwagon...could I please get a copy of the 10 things you wish your Primary Pres knew about Scouts, too? Thank you!
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Mar 11 2010 18:35:23 | Shannon Cordon
There is a great list someone has put together that shows which cub scout requirements correlate with which Faith in God. Many of them can be accomplished simultaneously. I think you can find it through the BSA site or lds.org ??? It has been a lifesaver for us.
Quote:Does anyone have any great ideas on getting scouts to complete their Faith in God also?
It's so easy for the girls, but a lot of extra work for boys! Most of our boys are graduating from Primary without earning their Faith in God award! I'm a new Primary Pres. and would love suggestions!
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Mar 21 2010 20:20:34 | Allison
I found a site that has the Faith in God listed along side correlating cub scout requirements! Woo hoo!
http://pack152.net/FaithInGodPrimary/ FaithinGodPrimary.htm Hope that helps!Quote:There is a great list someone has put together that shows which cub scout requirements correlate with which Faith in God. Many of them can be accomplished simultaneously. I think you can find it through the BSA site or lds.org ??? It has been a lifesaver for us.Quote:Does anyone have any great ideas on getting scouts to complete their Faith in God also?
It's so easy for the girls, but a lot of extra work for boys! Most of our boys are graduating from Primary without earning their Faith in God award! I'm a new Primary Pres. and would love suggestions!
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May 09 2010 13:39:31 | Cindy Schuetzler
I would also like the 10 things you wish your primary pres.knew. Thanks
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Jun 08 2010 16:27:45 | LaKelea Caplinger
Does anyone have ideas on how to teach the boys respect? Trying to keep the reverence theme in Primary in cub scouts too.
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Jun 09 2010 11:44:06 | CatherineQuote:Does anyone have ideas on how to teach the boys respect? Trying to keep the reverence theme in Primary in cub scouts too.
Take a look at the requirements for the new "manners" belt loop and pin. The character connection for respect also falls into a lot of the ideas from the "fun for the family" book, which could be incorporated into a den meeting.
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Aug 13 2010 21:45:17 | Charlotte
I would also like a copy of the 10 things you wish your primary pres knew about Scouts. Thanks.
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Aug 19 2010 13:03:21 | SHELLEY NETTLE
HAs anyone received a copy of the 10 things I wish my primary president knew about cub scouting? I would love to use this for my primary training this next month? Thanks so much!
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Nov 11 2010 08:59:03 | Guest
I am a cubmaster and for this month's packmeeting we are awarding the 100 year Ribbons to the boys and I was wondering has anyone out there come up with a ceremony for this yet?
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Nov 18 2010 15:24:48 | Lesta
We have our Stake Leadership Training coming up, and I would like to see that "10 Things" list also. Has anyone seen it?
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Nov 26 2010 22:44:08 | Kelli
I need a cute (and cheap) thank you gift for our Cub Scout den leaders and our Cubmaster. Any ideas?
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Dec 19 2010 12:50:13 | Mary
How can I get a copy of the "10 Things I Wish My Primary President knew about Cub Scouting"?
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Jan 17 2011 16:54:19 | Melissa
I see there are lots of ideas for tracking sheets this is the BEST I have found and have been using it for years. love it love it. http://trax.boy-scouts.net/cubtrax.htm
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Jan 17 2011 17:00:12 | Melissa
You can also find these posters at you local scout store. Only 1.99 great visual aid for the boys we put stickers on the achievements they have earned.
http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/ ItemDetail.aspx?cat=01RTL&ctgy=PRODUCTS& c2=BOOKS_LIT&C3=SUPPLIES&C4=&LV=3&item=34187& prodid=34187^8^01RTL&
http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/ ItemDetail.aspx?cat=01RTL&ctgy=PRODUCTS& c2=BOOKS_LIT&C3=SUPPLIES&C4=&LV=3&item=34192& prodid=34192^8^01RTL&
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Feb 03 2011 14:54:02 | Shelley
"Does anyone have any great ideas on getting scouts to complete their Faith in God also?
It's so easy for the girls, but a lot of extra work for boys! Most of our boys are graduating from Primary without earning their Faith in God award! I'm a new Primary Pres. and would love suggestions![/quote][/quote]
I sent Melanie my year curriculum and I used the list you refered to. I made sure that the den meetings (we only have den meeting twice a month) will match up to the requirements. So many of the faith in god activities correlate that you don't need to have a separate faith in god activity day. Email me at shelleyrnash at gmail dot com and I'll be happy to send you my wolf, bear, and webelos den meeting plans that incorporate the religious knot emblem, faith in god, and the appropriate rank for each den. I also have a nicer looking copy of the faith in god requirements that match up to cub scout requirements which I've sent to melanie as well.
She...
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Feb 16 2011 18:59:23 | Jodi Alejos
I am looking for a cute and inexpensive ideas for recognizing and thanking scout leaders at blue and gold banquet. Any ideas?
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Feb 27 2011 17:11:46 | Char
I need some advice!! Im in the primary pres. and im over the scouts. My steak pres has been on me about scout and I dont know what Im supposed to be doing!! I do what im told but can someone please tell me where I fit in and what exactly it is im supposed to be doing?
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Mar 08 2011 13:54:48 | Suzy
Need LOTS of ideas for Arrow of Light Ceremonies. We have 2-3 boys earn this award every month. I want to make it fun and special for them every month.
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Mar 10 2011 17:54:38 | Dana
Try contacting your district's OA (Order of the Arrow) leader. He can bring with him some other OA members and do an awesome program for you. Good luck.
Quote:Need LOTS of ideas for Arrow of Light Ceremonies. We have 2-3 boys earn this award every month. I want to make it fun and special for them every month.
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Mar 10 2011 18:00:18 | Dana
Speaking as a Stk Primary President...attending Roundtable is always a great place to get help and support. Also, you need to talk to her and ask her for more training. She needs to spell out exactly what she expects from you.
Im in the primary pres. and im over the scouts. My steak pres has been on me about scout and I dont know what Im supposed to be doing!! I do what im told but can someone please tell me where I fit in and what exactly it is im supposed to be doing?[/quote]
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Apr 06 2011 09:19:48 | Ginny
One of the requirements for cubs to get their Faith in God knot patch is to help plan a primary quarterly activity. Now that the new handbook doesn't have quarterly activities, do we know if the church has substituted anything else? I was going to talk to our primary and have my boys do something different for the primary, but didn't know if there was some official word yet.
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Apr 09 2011 21:54:51 | Jennilynn
I had this same question as well, and found the answer on the church website (http://lds.org/service/serving-in-the-church/ primary/for-parents-and-primary-leaders?lang=eng& query=primary+quarterly+activities). A different requirement has been subsituted since the quarterly activities have been discontinued.
Quote:One of the requirements for cubs to get their Faith in God knot patch is to help plan a primary quarterly activity. Now that the new handbook doesn't have quarterly activities, do we know if the church has substituted anything else?
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May 03 2011 11:20:35 | Traci
We are having a MAJOR problem with our Bears being disrespectful and crazy wiggley in den meetings. Our den leaders are ready to throw in the towel. Does anyone have suggestions??
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May 15 2011 04:53:23 | Rusty Willson
Quote:We are having a MAJOR problem with our Bears being disrespectful and crazy wiggley in den meetings. Our den leaders are ready to throw in the towel. Does anyone have suggestions??My Suggestion - Fine Motor, Gross Motor. In other words, have sitting and listening - 10 minutes, then moving and talking - 10 minutes. Before and during sitting/listening remind them that their chance is coming. Hope that helps.
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Jul 14 2011 10:27:12 | Susan
:-) the new "Scouting Handbook for Church Units in the United States" is now available ONLINE ONLY. All Primary presidents, Counselors over Cub Scouts, and any other registered Scout Leaders in the LDS Church should be familiar with it. If your Bishopric or Cub Scout or Boy Scout committees or leaders aren't aware of this, please let them know.
Here is the direct link: http://lds.org/bc/content/shared/content/english/ pdf/scouting-handbook-2011.pdf?lang=eng
or you can go use the following links:
www.lds.org
Serving in the Church
Aaronic Priesthood
Leader Resources
Scouting
Scouting Handbook
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Oct 01 2011 11:23:10 | Wardle
Answer:
The church has also updated the the Faith in God Booklet to omit that requirement and to add the religous square knot to the requirement above that one that talks about reading the 12th article of faith. Go to lds.org, serving in the church, primary, Faith in God, and then finally adapting Faith in God.....you will get your answers... there are chages for the girls Faith in God booklet also.. hopefully new versions of the Faith In God Booklet will be printed soon..... Hope this helps.
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Oct 30 2011 18:25:42 | guestQuote:"Does anyone have any great ideas on getting scouts to complete their Faith in God also?
It's so easy for the girls, but a lot of extra work for boys! Most of our boys are graduating from Primary without earning their Faith in God award! I'm a new Primary Pres. and would love suggestions![/quote]
I found this book at Dessert Book store.
"Primarily for Cub Scouts by Trina Boice". This book has great ideas and helpful hints.
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Jan 25 2012 22:40:40 | mlcowan
Does anybody have a sample scouting budget for LDS scouts? I need to put together a budget but I am not sure what exactly I need to budget for. I know basic things like the Pinewood Derby and the Blue and Gold but I am not sure how much to budget for den meetings, pack meetings and awards. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
mlcowan@hotmail.com
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Feb 03 2012 09:25:40 | Heleena West
I am looking for some information I can give/print out to better help our new Primary President with the understanding of her and her counslers important role in Cub Scouts. Thanks, H. west51215@yahoo.com
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Jul 24 2012 20:28:26 | Kristi
I've been Cub Scouts for 3 years now and have used an AWESOME Webelos tracking sheet that was on here. My twins are now Webelos and I was going to print off the sheet for them but it no longer exists or the link is "broken".
Please help, this was the best tracking sheet I've found. Parents & leaders both loved it! This was the link...
http://downloads.sugardoodle.net/ Webelos_Path_to_Arrow_of_Light_NEW_TRACKINGfor_PDF .pdf
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Aug 06 2012 11:09:13 | Julie in IDQuote:I've been Cub Scouts for 3 years now and have used an AWESOME Webelos tracking sheet that was on here. My twins are now Webelos and I was going to print off the sheet for them but it no longer exists or the link is "broken".
Please help, this was the best tracking sheet I've found. Parents & leaders both loved it! This was the link...
http://downloads.sugardoodle.net/ Webelos_Path_to_Arrow_of_Light_NEW_TRACKINGfor_PDF .pdf
Kristi, is this the one you are looking for? http://sugardoodle.net/ Webelos_Path_to_Arrow_of_Light_NEW_TRACKINGfor_PDF .pdf
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Aug 17 2012 09:33:21 | Kristi
Kristi, is this the one you are looking for? http://sugardoodle.net/ Webelos_Path_to_Arrow_of_Light_NEW_TRACKINGfor_PDF .pdf[/quote]
Thanks Julie!!! That's it
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Jan 05 2013 23:47:42 | Jennifer - Webelos Fitness Badge helps
I found crosswords on PBSkids.org to aid scouts with requirements 6 and 7.
http://pbskids.org/itsmylife/body/alcohol/ print_crossword.html
http://pbskids.org/itsmylife/body/drugabuse/ print_crossword.html
I made my own word scramble for requirements 5.
Tobacco causes damage to every ______________ in your body. (rogna)
Tobacco causes many different kinds of ______________ . (ancecr)
College kids who smoke tend to have lower ______________ . (gareds)
Smoking increases the risk for ______________ illnesses, like major depression.
(tnemal)
More ______________ are caused each year by tobacco use than by all deaths from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, suicides, and murders combined.
(daehts)
______________ ______________ smoke causes disease in and kills children and adults who don’t smoke.
(scenod hnad)
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It takes a lot of help to pull off a pinewood derby. We had a brother in our ward put in a lot of time helping the cubs with their cars and with the track so we wanted to give him a special thanks. We had each boy color a printout of a derby car. Then we attached lifesavers for the wheels. The cars were then attached to a folded poster board. It was a giant thank you from all the boys.
Here is a link to pictures and more instructions. http://www.macayatplay.com/2013/01/a-wheelie-big- thank-you-card.html
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May 19 2013 12:58:27 | debbie siletta
Wow.What a site. Man this...AWSOME





What are the 10 things you wish your primary pres knew about Scouts? I've been thinking about it-- but if you've got this anywhere, can you please post it?